Saturday, September 13, 2008

Response to the post "Filipinos Are Not Hispanic"

I stumbled upon this post by FIl-American Jon Torres over the popular site Associated Content. I would like to share my response to all my reader to some of his well intentioned subjects regarding his reaction as a Filipino to 'being referred to as Hispanic', something that is a common experience for those Filipinos who lives close to big Latino communities in the US. (All the italics are mine)


Filipinos Are Not Hispanic


A Few FAQ's I Keep Having to Answer


By Jon Torres, published Mar 21, 2007


Yesterday I was making a remark to my friend about my Asian heritage and he replied, "Asian? But I thought you were Filipino!" I could only laugh (politely, of course) at his statement, not only because it sounded wrong, but also because I had heard it once too often. This cannot be dismissed away with some flippant remark I'm tempted to make, like "Don't you ever wonder why there's no Filipino food at Taco Bell? "


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*This is quite common in the States, Filipinos - are being recognized as Hispanics, mainly because of the last name, facial feature & religion but Filipinos historically are Hispanics. Our Hispano culture makes us Hispanics. Mistake is made when hispanization is equated with blood relation and geography.


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There seems to be an all-too prevalent belief among the many westerners I meet, which is the notion that Filipinos are Hispanic. While I can see (more or less) how this could be reasoned in a roundabout way, and make its own odd sense, it is nonetheless wrong. To someone who has grown up in the Philippines, it does sound plausible from a certain point of view, yet still very strange for a number of reasons. I will address some questions I frequently get asked on this apparently novel piece of information.


Where is the Philippines? According to Wikipedia ( as well as every single one of my social studies teachers) the Philippines is in Southeast Asia. At this point, I rather think this should end any further explanation. We are much, much closer to Taiwan, China, Japan, Indonesia and Singapore than any country in Europe or Latin America. The geographical neighborhood alone should clue you in to the probable ethnicity of the Filipinos. Perhaps it is simply this lack of awareness as to where the Philippines actually is, that causes many people to guess and consequently, make mistaken assumptions based on that.


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Our location makes us Asian, but this does not undue our Hispanic roots for the simple reason that hispanization refers to history, language and culture. So if I were to answer the question "if Equatorial Guinea (an African nation) is a Hispanic nation?" my answer would be yes, not only because they speak Castilian but also because hispanization has taken root in their culture and society. Their geography, being a small state in the middle of the African wouldn't nullify their identity. Same with ours and some of the pacific islands that were under Spain then.


If one is to travel to China, Japan or Thailand - a Filipino would almost immediately feel like in a different world, an alien, "Asia was never at home with us", Nick Joaquin said and this is true, Manila is a city with little similarity with cities like Bangkok, Beijing and Tokyo etc etc - theirs is an oriental culture, ours is of Hispano origin. On the other hand, if you were to visit Mexico and all the other Latino countries - you would be awed how strikingly similar our culture is with them. So don't be surprised if American's see them in you.


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How do you explain the 80% Catholicism, which is obviously from Spanish colonization of the Philippines? This is true. We were converted from mostly earth-based, ancestral worshipping spiritual beliefs, and baptized as Catholics in the 16th century. This was instrumental in Spain's control over the Philippines for over three centuries as colonial property, by using organized religion along with political manipulation (without separation of Church and State). This had the effect of having Filipinos subservient to Spanish rule, without enjoying the benefits of being citizens. In short, we were the property of Spain, but we were not Spanish citizens.


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Part of the reason why Americans looks at Filipinos as Hispanic is because of our religion. Most Asians are seen as Orientals in the US, Orientals for them practices Buddhism, Hindu or religions they see as unfamiliar and mystical. Since Filipinos are Asians in their mind, they would be surprised to see Filipinos practicing the religion of the immigrant Latinos.



Since hispanization is the process by which a place or a person absorbs characteristics of Hispanic society and culture. We are Hispanos more than asianos. Unfortunately, most are not aware of this fact.



"Property of Spain?" - I think this author never heard about the Cadiz constitution - anyway we were all subjects, under a monarchy that translates to citizenship. This is the reason why Filipinos with means then were able to study, live and travel abroad, they were Spanish by right. Could you imagine the Ilustrados, founding a liberal paper called La Solidaridad in the heart of Spain? If they were not protected by their right as Spanish citizens they could've been easily executed. In the days of the Yankees, anyone who stood up here and oppose them was blasted into oblivion, they only ceded leadership after they've been able to guarantee that they would still be in control, in terms of economic policies and the nations resources.



In the American years, it would be good to review that we never became citizens under their commonwealth, they never wanted us even with the noisy clamor of the federalistas. I'm sure all Filipino immigrants know that it is not an easy process to go there and work - this is how we were repaid. Our glorious stand with the Americans during WWII and all the service we render under their flag is all but forgotten now. While The Japanese and Germans, on the other hand, who fought against them, today, can freely travel in the US without being bothered by the process we usually face. Talk about history and how it is easily forgotten by this western power.


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But don't Filipinos speak Spanish? I get this question several times a year, almost on a monthly basis, and every time I want to say a resounding "No!", they point out my own particular situation, because I happen to speak it passably well. In my case, as I believe is the same with many Filipinos living in the United States, I learned it here: both from Mexican friends and the local community college. The truth is, most Filipinos do not speak Spanish at all. Almost none of us do. From the 19th century American occupation, English has long replaced Spanish as the western lingua franca of the country, and has been for a hundred years.


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We used to speak Castillan as a nation, but when the American's came it slowly eroded but it is, as it was pointed out the 'lingua franca' back in the days. The American system then recognized literacy based on the use of the English language. Regardless whether you speak or write in Tagala or Castilian you would still be tagged as illiterate if you would neglect the use and study of this foreign language and since there is no way for someone to progress in the new American standard of education if one would not take up English, everyone had no choice but to learn it.


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It certainly doesn't help that Filipinos are generally adaptable, and being from a country with over a thousand local dialects, will be averse (or too polite!) to saying they do not understand, or are unable to learn a certain language. We eventually pick up enough of the local language to get by. True, our main dialect, like many others, is in fact peppered with Spanish words, making it fairly easy for us to learn Spanish if we tried. But what few Spanish words that we use in our daily colloquial speech are mostly pidginized and remarkably different from their original meanings (Get this: "leche" is a mild curse word in Tagalog!). Also, we have much more of the neighboring language groups in our vernacular: mostly Malaysian, Chinese, Arabic, and more recently, plenty of English.


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It seems that the author of this failed to research on how many Spanish words there are in what most scholar's claims as 'pure' tagala. Aside from thousands of Castilian words in the recognized national language, a study of the Spanish language would also highlight that some of the common words we use that we thought were ours were from the Castilian language. Adapted to suit local pronunciation.


I don't even want to describe what "leche" means as a curse. :)


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Why do you have a Spanish last name? Doesn't that mean you have at least one Spanish bloodline? A Spanish surname is very common among Filipinos, and this understandably can lead to confusion. It's like meeting a Japanese person named Park, or more commonly, a Caucasian person named Lee. It however, does not reveal a person's ancestry automatically. In the case of most Filipinos, the mass-conversion also led to our being relabeled with 'Christian' surnames. Genuine intermarrying was probably quite rare back then. I can confidently say that I am no more Hispanic than your roll of "Scotch" tape has been anywhere near Glasgow.


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Your last name has nothing to do with your identity. You could be Chinese and possess a name like Juan de la Cruz but you would still be Chinese when you wake up in the morning not unless you got that name from the history and culture of your people - only then that it would mean something. Ancestry and places of origin does not define an identity. Again, there is confusion in the definition of nationality, location, ancestry and identity.




It was not just "relabeling" - it was in effect, creating identity for the natives the aside from of course the benefits it would provide the Government then.


They say, your name says a lot of things about you, this is true, a Hispanized name tells the history of adapting to the Spanish ideals of society then, as it was enforced by Claveria, the fact that it was accepted (voluntarily or involuntarily) means our ancestors assimilated into a Hispanic society.


These are 'Christian' names as he pointed out goes back to the process of hispanization. The one thing that the author failed to study is the process of becoming a "Filipino" . The review of this would bring one closer to our real identity. The author already mentioned the Catholic religion earlier, that's Filipino identity along with the culture and heritage.



Some backward thinking folks would elect to go back to the old tribes for which I'd rather not, what we have, we should keep and respect.


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So I hope it no longer seems to you a bold statement to say that Filipinos are not Hispanic, not from Latin America, do not speak Spanish nor are even of mostly Spanish ancestry. I encourage you to look up even more information on sites such as Wikipedia, and if possible, find some Filipino friends and raise a discussion, which I have no doubt will be a lively one. And have share some Filipino food while you're talking. We like to think it's better than Taco Bell, anyway.


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I think everyone would be in agreement that our dish is the best in the world!


By the way, thanks to Jon for improving my calligraphy. I happen to take interest in this old art, his on line videos were awesome.


See it here




25 comments:

  1. Not enough time to finish reading. But, i have a complete researched ....Who are Filipinos? Looking back where the Indian came from....in Asia..Where in Asia....i have the book & history about it.

    If you are interested to talk to me ...i will be in San Pedro, Laguna on the 2nd week of October.

    Please email me. & thanks

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  2. The dude who wrote that article "Filipinos are not hispanic" was born and raised "in" the Philippines. That says volumes and certainly explains his ignorance.

    He's probably one of those Fresh-Boaters who probably only associates with Filipinos and only eats Filipino-food and laughs and has something to say about any other thing "outside" his Filipino paradigm. You know the kind!

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    Fil-Black-Rican, on December 18th, 2008 at 5:27 pm Said: Edit Comment

    People from the Philippines, upon migrating or visiting the U.S., are not used to cultural diversity as is experienced by Americans of Filipino descent. When living in California, you just see the cultural and religious similarities practiced with your Mexican or Hispanic neighbors, friends or co-workers.

    In Mr. Torres’ case regarding his article, you detect his FOBBINESS when referring to Hispanics with Taco Bell. South Americans (Argentines, Chileans, Uruguayans), Cubans, Dominicans and Puerto Ricans do not eat tacos.

    It’s like saying all Asians eat dogs, when in fact that “stereotype” is usually directed to Filipinos, and to an extent Vietnamese and not Japanese, Koreans, Thai, Indians, or Pakistanis. You know what I mean?

    That tells you that Mr. Torres is very, very, very new to the United States and probably does not have a diverse group of friends. Most Filipino nationals are inept to socialize outside thier own circle, and then criticize everyone else with passionate put-downs.

    They fail to realize that they are the fools.
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    Fil-Black-Rican, on December 18th, 2008 at 5:31 pm Said: Edit Comment

    In Mr. Torres’ case regarding his article - Filipinos are not Hispanics, you detect his FOBBINESS (for lack of better words and with all due respect) when referring to Hispanics with Taco Bell. South Americans (Argentines, Chileans, Uruguayans), Cubans, Dominicans and Puerto Ricans do not eat tacos.

    It’s like saying all Asians eat dogs, when in fact that “stereotype” is usually directed to Filipinos, and to an extent Vietnamese and not Japanese, Koreans, Thai, Indians, or Pakistanis. The truth of the matter is the vast majority of Filipinos don’t even eat dogs. You know what I mean?

    That tells you that Mr. Torres is very, very, very new to the United States and probably does not have a diverse group of friends with different ethnicities. Filipino nationals are known inept to socialize outside thier own circle, and then criticize everyone else with passionate put-downs. It’s because they are not used to living with white-brown-yellow and black people. It really isn’t Mr. Torres’ fault!

    They fail to realize that they are the fools.
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    Fil-Black-Rican, on December 18th, 2008 at 5:34 pm Said: Edit Comment

    You see how ignorant comments like Taco Bell can go both ways?
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    Fil-Black-Rican, on December 18th, 2008 at 5:39 pm Said: Edit Comment

    You could detect Jon Torres’ FOBBINESS commenting on Taco Bell and Hispanics. Mexico is only one of 20 “Hispanic” nationalities.

    It’s like Asians eating dogs. We know of only one nation within the continent of Asia who is stereotypically known for eating poodles as a delicacy. Even though a vast majority of Filipinos have never eaten dogs.
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    Fil-Black-Rican, on December 18th, 2008 at 5:45 pm Said: Edit Comment

    P.S.,

    In defense of Jon Torres, he probably never has extensively visited any Latin American country for a long period of time. Forgive his ignorance. He’s definitely newly fresh off the boat.

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  4. You could be right but majority of Filipinos either do not know that they're hispanic or they're in denial that they are hispanic. Hispanism has nothing to do with geography - we could be Asians geographically speaking but a glimpse at our culture and history would show a hispano soul.

    Hispanism has nothing to do with Spain today but it has everything to do with who we are, and as someone who had the opportunity to travel abroad, I found out that I could never be oriental [in character at least] because my culture and history would not permit me to do so, not that there is something wrong with embracing the oriental culture but its just not Filipino. We should know how to answer the question, define a Filipino? - and in order to define you MUST identify its characteristics... so far, for me, it all leads back to that 'hispano' culture that most of us has been taught not to recognize.

    Fil Black Rican - I consolidated your comments into one message.

    abrazo
    A

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  5. Thanks. I seem to have had problems submitting my original comment. It kept saying "duplicated comment" upon my submitting them. I would modify the comment only to being denied again. If you can delete "some" or part (at your discretion) of the comments, it won't sound so redundant.

    Again, at your discretion of course!

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  6. No hay problemo.

    About the dogs, while it is true that we have some people who eats our furry best friends, they're confined to those who have a tradition of doing so, like the highlanders for example but majority of Filipinos are outraged by this practice.

    Eating dogs is punishable by imprisonment, so that should reassure dog loving humans that we are indeed kind to our pets.

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  7. Listen, I am not "anti-Filipino" by all means. I just believe the Philippines and Filipinos need to recognize their Spanish cultural past - both the pros and cons - and deal with it.

    Seems to me, this "Filipinos are Asians" obsession is due to the term Asian being identified with the "model minority" rhetoric. However, the truth of the matter is Filipinos are predominantly "brown-skinned" people with Spanish names which usually equates to being mistaken for Mexican. In all due respect, the term Mexican or Hispanic, usually defines a general stereotype quite 'contrary' and opposite to the "model minority" description often connected to the term Asian.

    The dog thing was just a "tic for tac" example of how insulting "stereotyping" can be. It was a subliminal rebuttal towards Mr. Torres' glib and rude example regarding that all Hispanics eat at Taco Bell. Only Mexico is known for its people eating tacos NOT Cubans, Puert Ricans, Central Americans or South Americans, all being "Hispanics".

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  8. I get it bro. The sad part is that recognition is missing today, when I talk about hispanism, I'm tagged as someone apologizing for Spain's errors or romanticizing the Spanish era, hispanism has nothing to do with Spain anymore, were talking of cultural and historical identity here not of any allegiance. As you said we just have to deal with it, for me we have to embrace it and make other people fall in love with it. There's something wrong here, like amnesia, were the only one - of all Spanish colonies that have not known how to value our hispanic origins!

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  9. Thanks, good article... Do you know any other places that discuss this?

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  10. Filipinas quiere que el español vuelva a ser lengua oficial






    Se llama Gloria Macapagal Arroyo y es la presidenta de Filipinas. Quiere que el español vuelva a ser lengua oficial en el archipiélago, que fue tierra española desde 1565 hasta 1898. Aunque los norteamericanos impusieron el inglés en las islas a partir de esa fecha, el español siguió siendo lengua de rango oficial hasta 1987, cuando el Gobierno de Corazón Aquino la suprimió. Ahora Macapagal tiene un gesto de sensatez y solicita al Gobierno español que colabore en este proyecto. En buena lógica, España debería echar una mano.

    Quien ha hecho público el propósito del Gobierno filipino es Humberto López Morales, un filólogo cubano nacionalizado español que ejerce como secretario de la Asociación de Academias de la Lengua Española. Según ha informado EFE, López Morales, en la inauguración de un coloquio en Buenos Aires sobre la lengua española, afirmó que la gobernante filipina hará su petición de ayuda a España durante la visita que tiene prevista a nuestro país en el mes de diciembre.

    La colaboración de España con su antigua colonia puede consistir, según el filólogo cubano nacionalizado español, en el envío de profesores y material bibliográfico para la enseñanza del idioma, entre otras medidas. Si logra ayuda de las autoridades de España, posiblemente en enero dicte un decreto que oficialice el idioma español, sigue informando EFE, siempre citando a López Morales.

    En abril pasado, el Instituto Cervantes de Manila pidió al Gobierno filipino que volviera a incluir el estudio del español como lengua oficial dentro del currículum de los alumnos de la escuela pública. Filipinas suprimió el español de su sistema educativo en 1987, durante el Gobierno de la presidenta Corazón Aquino, bajo la nueva Constitución que se redactó tras la caída del régimen de Ferdinand Marcos. Más de 5.000 personas estudian actualmente español en el país, según datos del Instituto Cervantes. Es una cifra ridícula.

    En el terreno práctico, España posee recursos sobrados para colaborar en el proyecto de la presidenta Macapagal Arroyo. La proyección exterior de la cultura española, una vez desaparecido el Instituto de Cultura Hispánica creado por Franco, pasó a oscilar entre los ministerios de Exteriores y Cultura hasta pivotar sobre el Instituto Cervantes, ya en época de Felipe González. Se abrió entonces un periodo de confusión y solapamiento de competencias que, aún dando sus frutos, pudo haber ofrecido mejores rendimientos.

    El papel del Instituto Cervantes bajo el gobierno de Aznar fue afinado y clarificado, pero lo esencial del esfuerzo de cooperación cultural venía a recaer en Exteriores, ministerio cuyas prioridades rara vez coinciden con la potenciación de la cultura española. Después, con Zapatero, se impuso la doctrina de que el Cervantes debía evitar perfiles “expansionistas” y, aún más, integrar la proyección exterior de las lenguas vasca, catalana y gallega. La gestión de César Antonio Molina (hoy ministro de Cultura), generalmente elogiada, ha atemperado esa doctrina, pero el hecho es que la proyección exterior de la cultura española sigue pareciendo demasiado escasa.

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  11. Okay. Here's my two cents worth.

    Being "Hispanic" in the U.S. context has some very political implications that need to be understood. Spaniards, for example, are not classified as "Hispanic," but as "European."

    Being Hispanic, in that sense, apart from its geographic and racial applications, implies I believe either fluency in Spanish (or Castillan, if you prefer) or the possession of a Spanish-speaking home background.

    The vast majority of Filipinos, and I mean more than ninety-nine percent, DO NOT come from a Spanish-speaking home environment. For them, Spanish is neither the mother tongue nor a first learned language. Most do not even have Spanish as a good second language, though this number, among Filipinos in the States, is definitely growing as a result of demographic influence and economic necessity.

    Not one in ten Filipinos in the States would be able to fully comprehend the Spanish written in the earlier posts.

    However, virtually all Filipinos who immigrate to the States from the Philippines have some Filipino language, either as a mother tongue or as a first learned language. There are several Filipino languages, including Tagalog, Ilokano, Kapampangan, Cebuano, Ilonggo and Chavacano. The last mentioned, Chavacano, is a heavily hispanized language, BUT IT IS NOT SPANISH AND WOULD NOT BE RECOGNIZED AS SPANISH ANYWHERE ELSE.

    Now here is the point. ALL Filipino languages are classified as Asian and have the closest linguistic affinity to neighboring languages. Filipino languages are cousins to Malay, Javanese, Achenese and even Polynesian languages, just as Spanish is a cousin to Portuguese, French and Italian. This is well-established scientifically and cannot be disputed.

    On the other hand, this does not mean that three-and-a-half centuries of Spanish colonial rule did not leave an indelible imprint on Filipino language, culture and religion.

    Parenthetically, the fact that more Filipinos are at home in English than in Spanish does not make them "Anglo-Saxon" either!

    I would also suggest that people be careful about throwing FOB-ness around. This is a very sensitive subject to many Filipinos and does not rest well with many of them.

    Going back to culture, Filipinos are closely linked in many deep levels with other Asians. Traditional Filipino attitudes towards family and community are definitely more Asian than Western.

    The bottom line is that Filipino-Americans can -- if they see the political expediency of doing so and have the astuteness to act on this realization -- identify with both the Hispanic and the Asian-Pacific Islander ethno-political communities in the U.S. If they are welcomed, Filipinos can have representatives in the AAPI and La Raza and so forth.

    One interesting aspect of this, and of globalization trends, is the hiring by the hundreds of Filipino teachers to staff schools along the border regions in the southern part of the U.S. Many of these teachers have been recruited to teach Engish. No doubt, they and their family members will also pick up a good working knowledge of Spanish.

    Vale!

    Marcelo

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  12. Hi Sr. Marcelo

    Hispanism does not pertain to language alone, actually its more culture and tradition than language. I could understand why people would relate it with THE language, because there, in the US, Latino [hispanic], has become an expanding demographic unit, an ethnonym, and since Spanish speakers are from different countries, the US response was the generalization of differentiating Spanish speakers from other immigrants by use of their language, calling all of them Hispanic or Latinos.

    The term Latino, which was officially adopted sometime in the 1990’s by the US government actually is incorrect, because Latino refers to other romance languages like Portuguese and Italian, this familiar mistake is made because Hispanism is tied to Spanish, the language.

    By the way, in NO former Spanish colony was Spanish the only language. It was the new republics that created educational systems the created use of Spanish. So if we adopted a curriculum that made used of Spanish, we would all be speaking Spanish right now. Of course, it didn’t happened, the US came in with their public schools and their so called progressive democratic ideas.

    We really do have a short memory, we forget that revolution’s language was Spanish, the original composition of our anthem was Spanish, our first constitution was in Spanish, our greatest literature was in Spanish, Filipinos names and places are in Spanish [most], the people who carried out the fight against the Spaniards were Spanish speakers, our Tagalog [not the bastardized Filipino or Taglish] has loads of Spanish influenced expressions - and that we don’t speak it now doesn’t mean we never did.

    un abrazo,

    Arnaldo

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  13. They are going to teach the Spanish language -again- at the selected secondary schools? Wow...the Philippines is finally thinking "globalization." For cultural exchange and more opportunities for the newer generations, I think it's a positive move.

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  14. zealous nationalist, or those pretending to be,worked behind the scenes to remove Spanish [language], these are shortsighted leaders, who abolished the official teaching of Spanish [authored by Senador Enrique Magalona during mid 1900's] during the phony cory constitution, they should be ashamed that the language Claro M. Recto, Enrique Magalona, Adriatico, Rizal, and so many great Filipinos fought for was eradicated by their politics , simply because this idiotic leaders saw speaking and studying Spanish as unnationalistic, what these morons forgot is that we started this nation using Spanish as its language, her first constitution, her national anthem, her revolution, her greatest sons and daughters were spanish speakers, her greatest novels and poems were in Spanish, so how could we be less Filipinos in Spanish?

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  15. Ulysses GramophoneApril 13, 2009 at 6:39 AM

    Interesting discussion. I have friends and associates from Korea, Japan and Indonesia, and I have to say that few of them think of Filipinos as an Asian people, in any sense other than geographic. Knowledgeable Koreans I have met say that Filipinos resemble Mexicans or even Africans (possibly having met some Aetas), rather than Asians. An Indonesian friend once said that culturally the Philippines is very far from Indonesia, Malaysia or Singapore (according to him, most Filipinos can't even find Indonesia on a map, much less connect to an imaginary shared heritage).

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  16. 1) geographically Asian, 2) culturally Hispanic influenced, and 3) linguistcally uses English as a second language.

    These are three reasons that make if difficult to define filipinos, yet these are the same three reasons that "do" define them...

    It's a unique situation really, and I love it!!!

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  17. Tenemos que conocer acerca de la diversidad de nuestra cultura. Recuerde, nuestra cultura es ni oriental ni occidental. Somos influido por las tres culturas: Lumad, Moro y La Gente de las Tierras Bajas (Cultura Hispana). Somos no Americano pero Filipino. Aprenda la lenguas locales y lengua nacional! Aprenda la lengua española porque tambien es la herencia Mexicana y España. No estas ignorantes. Mabuhay ang nasod sa Pilipinas! ¡Adelante La Republica Filipina!

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  18. look im married to a filipina here in australia......i went there for the first time to manila and then down to her parents province.....to me and here in australia filipinos are considerd ASIAN!!!..yes they do have spanish influence but they look exactly the same as indos malays and thais......what about the east timorese are they hispanic as well!! they wherer colonized by the portugese also....even there language is close to indonesian and malay alot of words having the same meaning....so basically from my observation they are strongly more connected with Asia than hispana

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  19. ABSOLUTELY YES MIKE. Hispanicity has nothing to do with race or physical attributes. Equatorial Guinea is a Hispanic African nation. You're narrowing down the idea of hispanidad.

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  20. Yes the PH is in ASIA obviously but she has been dissociated from ASIA when it became part of the Spanish empire for 333 years for crying out loud. Hispanidad has something to do with INFLUENCE, RELIGION, CULTURE & LANGUAGE not race that's pathetic.

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  21. Mike, have you traveled into Mexico, Central America, Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia and observed the indigenous populations there?

    You need to stop thinking Australian. Your ethnicity is world renowned for being the most closed-minded, racist, unwelcoming to people of color of ALL the civilized world.

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  22. The American were the one who started calling Hispanics based on their language, thats is why we have the US Govt official term, Latino, since all hispanics speaks Spanish anyway - but the problem is Italian and Portuguese are also Latino languages, should we call them Latinos too?

    Identity is rooted in traditions, culture and history - we have no right to call ourselves Filipino if we keep on denying that much of what we have now, including our religion even our food - came from our hispano past.

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  23. Es una pena que el genocidio norteamericano durante 1901-1909 haya asesinado a 1/7 de la población filipina para erradicar el español y la herencia cultural española. Los americanos no pudieron vencer al español y tuvieron que bombardear y destruir intramuros. Es una vergüenza!

    It is a pitty that the american genocide during 1901-1909 killed more than 1/7th of the filipino population in order to root out spanish heritage. The americans coud not finish their work until they bombed and destroyed Manila Intramuros. Shame on that!

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  24. I hate filipino wanna-bes that say that they are "half spanish" or shit. Why don't they say that they are American or Indonesians when they also colonized the Philippines not just the Spaniards. People like these are not proud to be Filipino. They say that they are spanish when their last name is spaniards. FYI, last names were given by the Spaniards to filipinos since they mostly had common names. That girl is more a slut than a singer or an artist. SLUT SLUT SLUT! Viva Espana! Every country is mixed with different races in theire history and got much influence!!!! But only philippines cant accept them selves as asian and searching a culture how dumb and poore. sorry but thats the thruth u guys didnt make a own a culture ur talking others. Lot of Latinos dislike filipinos bout that!

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  25. pelotillo...

    it is true. however;

    1) as the spanish language is reintroduced to selected secondary schools and re-emphasized at the university level,

    2) with the assistance and moral support of "all" of spain's former colonies,

    3) the aggressive p/r by "istituto cervantes of the p.i.,"

    4) the 300,000 chavacano speakers,

    5) president Arroyo's vision of the growing importance of spanish worldwide aka globalization,

    = the philippines could finally experience a long deserved hispanic-renaissance. Lets hope and see...

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